Roots of jazz Chicago: Oliver and Armstrong

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The following tape recorded the presentation of the National Association of
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educational broadcasters.
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This is in this
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program we tell of King Oliver.
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Joe Oliver came to Chicago in 1980.
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He came up to Mississippi from New Orleans.
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He was the King when he left and became the King when he arrived.
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They brawling city jammed against the Southwestern shore of Lake Michigan.
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The Chicago River cuts through it like a giant crank the handle entering the lake the
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river bends sharply around the loops encircling quadrangle of elevated lines
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flowing down through the stockyards south of the loop bounded on the west by the
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yards and on the east by the lake in Chicago's negro district. This
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is where jazz was first heard when it came from the south since
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1911.
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The music of the South the music of New Orleans had been moving to Chicago
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since 1917 when the United States Navy closed Storyville
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after 20 years of notoriety. The musicians of New Orleans. Too many without
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jobs had been leaving in even larger numbers for the burgeoning
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cities of the north.
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I'm World War One. When the stock. Yes because the stockyards
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were busy you know what you call again the Hog Butcher of the world and it was more work. So Negroes
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came up nor many to work in the stockyards eyes they can nor the musicians came
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north too because back in those days the key audience for jazz was the negro maligns whites knew
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very little about a house out of the synthetic stuff they had heard of green and so
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when our team up north and he was one of the key bands of the time
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he brought a young trumpet man went on a million Armstrong and a young man named Johnny
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and baby dies and so Chicago became a very exciting city in the early 20s
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some of these musicians who moved to Chicago early with the itinerant piano
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players.
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Here is what the book jazz man has to say.
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There was music by a negro piano players who traveled from city to city getting
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their keep from the management and the pay from the clientele in tips and drinks
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a good town on the circuit. They had Chicago oftener and stayed longer.
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Toni Jackson Benjamin Harney and Jelly Roll Morton could be heard in the district regularly
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in the years around 1910 Doni Jackson had a band at the elite in 1910
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and wanted to go on Russell's in 1912.
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But by 1911 the wacky horn of jazz was there as the
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buddy BOWDEN of the Windy City Freddy kept ahd moved to town with the original
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Creole orchestra and later they played a tune for Chicago
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called Stuckey strut.
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That's the man
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the man who was afraid to report is everybody would
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be home.
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And.
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And
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Emmanuel Perez is Creole band visit in Chicago and the Negro
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newspaper The defender said that you heard Emanuel Prez's Creole band.
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Have you heard that wonderful jazz music that the people of Chicago are wild about the
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Original Dixieland Jazz Band led by Tom Brown was the first white
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Dixieland then and they popularized jazz in 1915.
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And in 1917 the New Orleans Rhythm Kings went north. But in
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1918 at the dreamland cafe. Playing From 8
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until 1 o'clock in the morning and at the Pekin cafe until 6:00 in the
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morning. The crown of jazz passed from Freddie can't Fahd to
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King of New Orleans.
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Joe Oliver Oliver was born in 1885 and only played in
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the children's brass band while in his teens. He did not enter a jazz group until around
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1995. For the next 10 years roughly he improved and when he
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joined Ortiz brown skin babies in one thousand fourteen or fifteen he was good enough to
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take over from papa might carry. It was only after he joined Henri that he
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eventually became King Oliver and shortly afterwards he went to Chicago where
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he found fame.
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Joe was a poor cornet player for a long time says bunk
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Johnson and Kid Ory said he was as rough as Peguy and
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he belonged to the second generation of New Orleans jazz man. He was not a pioneer
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but he developed a style and slowly a powerful tone which he
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augment it by the use of a variety of mutes might carry another
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muted cornet player says of Joe.
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He was the greatest phreak trumpet player I ever knew. He did most of his playing with
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cups glasses buckets and mutes. He was the best gut bucket man I ever heard.
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I called him freak because the sounds he made were not made by the valves but through these
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artificial devices.
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Go on.
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Uh.
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Huh.
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Joe came to Chicago in 1917 and for seven years success
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hounded his footsteps. He was really the king in
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1921 he played for a month in San Francisco and baby
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does drummer brother of Oliver's clarinetist Johnny Dodds
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join the band Inge Los Angeles direct from Fate Marable's
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riverboat band Joe was on the talk. He wasn't hard to get
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along with but he knew what he wanted of his bandsman and he meant to get it.
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Ramsey and Smith in the book Jasmine quote him as saying.
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I mean I want you to be a band man and a band man only and a warrior can for
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the welfare of the band in the line of playing your best at all times.
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They set on fire according to The Chicago Defender. But the band was
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homesick for the Windy City and they returned to play at the Lincoln Gardens on
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Thirty first Street people thronged to hear him and they had to
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rope off part of the dance floor and put in shit is for the listeners.
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And in 1922 King Oliver sent a Louis Armstrong
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and in his most recent book Satchmo Louis tells the story this way
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by the year nine hundred twenty two.
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I had become so popular from playing in good Henri's band and the Dixie doe brass band
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that I too could go into any part of New Orleans without being bothered. Everybody loved
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me and just wanted to hear me blow. Even the tough characters were no exception. The tougher
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they were the more they would fall in love with my horn. Just like those good old hustlers
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during the hockey days. Joe Oliver had left New Orleans in
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1018 and he was now up in Chicago doing real swell. It kept sending me
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letters and telegrams telling me to come up to Chicago and play second coronet for him that
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I knew would be a real heaven for me. I had made up my mind that I would not leave
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New Orleans unless the King sent for me. I would not risk leaving for anyone else.
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I had seen too many of my little pals leave home and come back in bad shape. Often their
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parents had to send them the money to come back with. I had such a wonderful three years on the
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excursion boats on the Mississippi that I did not dare cut out for some unknown character who might
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leave me stranded or get me into other trouble and distract us brothers
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that made it impossible for me to risk spoiling everything by running off on a wild goose chase.
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After I had made all my arrangements I definitely accepted Joe's offer and
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thus they came about the first great combination of musicians to record jazz
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history. They existed for two years 1922 to
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1924 king of Ancona at Louis Armstrong on second
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cornet. Do tree trombone Johnny Dodds clarinet succeeded by
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Busta Bailey and Jimmy knew little hadan piano Baby Dodds drum
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and Bill Johnson or Bud Scott on the banjo.
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Rex Harris in his book Jazz says Louis was no less a
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second cornet than a soloist or ensemble player. And some of the two cornet breaks
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that electrified dancers and listeners alike were indeed masterpieces of timed accuracy
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drive and polish. When musicians talk today of playing by ear they
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seldom think in terms of the tremendous standards set by Oliver. He and Louis would
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work out a break or a bridge passage in a matter of seconds during the playing of the actual
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number.
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Thank you.
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Probably the first song Louie have a plate on the horn was home sweet home. He learned it
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on a cornet in the colored waifs Home for Boys where the age of 13 he was
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confined by a juvenile court for firing a 38 during a New Orleans
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celebration of New Years. Mr. Peter Davis taught Louis how to blow the
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cornet and eventually Louie led the waifs home band. They even
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played in a street parade or two. He heard Buddy Bowden play and pronounced his
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tone as rough.
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You had bunk Johnson and credits him with the best song he heard Freddie kept odd
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and said Freddy had his own little traits which always interested in amused me
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whenever he played in a street parade. He used to cover his fingers with a pocket handkerchief so
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that the other cornet players wouldn't catch his stuff. Silly I thought but that
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was Freddie and everybody ate it up. There was no doubt about it.
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He had Tom and Louie peddled code for the CAA Andrews Coke company.
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He peddled it with a mule and cart. Lots of poor people used to pick up coal
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along the railroad tracks and sell it for five cents a cart. In the early days
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and years later Louis made a recording of a song which depicts this activity.
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It's called cocotte blues and it features one of the greatest pairs of jazz
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musicians still alive. Louis Armstrong on trumpet and Sidney
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Vishay on soprano sax. And here it is.
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Some.
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Way or a.
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Few. We. All
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know. What.
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I. Don't know.
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Thank you.
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In 1918 King all of the left New Orleans was Chicago and as Louis
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Armstrong was leaving the railroad station after seeing him off. Louis had a code of code to
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deliver a Kid Ory called to him. You still go in that corner and Little
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Louie fill the shoes of Joe Oliver in New Orleans in 1918
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Louis stopped delivering coke and later he began played with pompous Elliston in the
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tuxedo brass band and with great Marable on the riverboat Sidney. And by
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nineteen twenty two he was in Chicago and he was with the king King all of us.
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And he says in the closing paragraph of his book Satchmo I had hit
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the big time I was up north with the greats. I was playing with
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my idol the king. Joe Oliver my boyhood
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dream had come true at last.
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The two kings of the cornet played jazz together in Chicago and they are
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shootin the jazz. The term which means very little about
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music but a whole world about life during the 20th. Louis
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played with Joe for two years and then left the King went to New York and
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eventually lost his teeth and his spirit and his money. He died a
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pauper but Louis went right on blow and his songs are as
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brilliant today as they were 30 years ago.
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This has been Program number eight in a series on the roots of jazz in the United States
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in program number nine more of Louis Armstrong and of other negro
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artists in Chicago. The roots of jazz is written and produced by Norman Cleary.
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As the song technician is the reader.
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And this is Norman Cleary speaking.
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