The Institute on Man and Science Understanding Media
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National Educational radio in cooperation with the Institute on man and
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science presents a series of talks drawn from the institute's annual conference
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held recently in Rensselaer Vale New York. The Institute on man and
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science is a nonprofit educational institution chartered by the New York State
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Board of Regents. The annual assembly of the institute is designed
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to focus attention on 20th century technology and the human relationships
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resulting from its application. The speaker on this program
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is Gordon Martin of The National Film Board of Canada. His topic will
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be understanding media. Here now is Mr. MARTIN.
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I was very pleased to be here this morning I wish I'd be here earlier in the week. So
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many things which doctors Express this morning
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were things which have been on my mind which I'm very excited about. I've
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put down some of his contacts. In fact I've probably misquoted him several
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cases. I hope you will excuse me if I have distorted any of his views it
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would seem to me that what he was telling us in some instances is that there is no longer
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any clear cut because effect relationship as we have
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believed in for many years into a relationship.
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It also seemed to me that he was telling us that there are useful models that
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we have of the universe the way it operates. The discussion which
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came up at the end of his presentation. The
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relationship between explanations of chance and systematic
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description seem to me a very good example there of how
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we simply use a rather arbitrary but useful models and we can be.
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Well it sure it. I imagine that a hundred years from now or 50 years out or
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ten years out that many of the models that we now have find useful to
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explain behavior to explain the universe will no longer prove to be
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useful. I think it's also very exciting that we live in a pluralistic
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age where more than one model of the same phenomenon may
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be useful under different circumstances. This tends I think
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to steer us away from absolutism from the fighting of
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final packaged products as being the answers
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and stares us into something that I want to discuss my conception
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of education and its relationship with media. The whole idea of
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the acceleration of invention is also very exciting. I
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suppose this is really the knowledge explosion.
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Now since this comes under the general umbrella of challenge for change I'll say
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something. I have one of two things that I sit in a discussion last night at
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which not everyone here was present. Why in challenge for
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change and society do we select certain people like the
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poor or the Indians or the Negroes. It seems to me that there is
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a basic assumption built into this which I would at least like to question.
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Deception might well be that there is a better way of life
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existing amongst the rest of us. That is the rest of us who don't
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fall into those categories about which something ought to be
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done. I'd enjoy a better way of life. I don't think many people
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that would argue that these things are a way of life.
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Materialism However it is much more comfortable but nonetheless
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I would put forward this suggestion immediately that our way of
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life materially comfortable and I'm saying ours because it seems to me to have a ground here that we're all
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pretty well middle class are better. Our way of
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life is built on certain bases and these other bases
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which produce the other way of life that we're so darned concerned about
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it. Our way of life is built on assumptions it's necessary to have bosses
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have workers it's necessary to have a hierarchy
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in order to have for Iceland you have to have rich in order to have slums I
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assume that you have not slums you have suburbs so far
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so that in fact it seems to me very likely that our
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way of life is endemically connected with the other way of life.
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And it's not possible to change the other ways of life to make it
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to ours without in fact changing at all. The total social
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structure which then is going to change our ways of life I suppose that's why it's so frightening
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to many of us. Sadly we realize it to have a different society
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with real change and that it's it really means that
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we're going to change. It's not simply a matter of converting some heathens into
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enjoying and giving them the tools to enjoy things as we enjoy them.
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That's what bothered me about Saul Alinsky approach last night. It seemed to me
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that he was simply accepting and perpetuating
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the existing social order and using it for other people to acquire
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power. But he was simply accepting an order which assumes that some
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people have more power than other people and thus the battle
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book to new indefinitely. If this is our approach
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I'm going to suggest an alternative without suggesting to you that I have
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any kind of answer. But my alternative will be very general.
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Perhaps I can support it with a few specifics at any rate.
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Now I would agree with all that ski perhaps in the short term.
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There are certain political actions within the existing system that are
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necessary to relieve oppression if you like.
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I would also agree that charity is a necessary short term but if we base a
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system of society on charity hand-outs then
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society never changes like putting Band-Aids on cancer doesn't work too well covers it
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up. Maybe for the moment but you know you continue to have the same kind of problems existing.
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I guess I place some of my faith in an alternative which
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I would call education Smalley by education I don't
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mean what we call the educational enterprise that
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exists today although it is changing and it shows signs
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at least of maybe becoming truly educational in the small
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East sense. Now under
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the heading of media education
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I would like to suggest that there's one priority thing to be
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done which is not the acquisition of facts which still remains
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in North America perhaps whole world as a fundamental reason for
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people going to school. That's why I distinguish between the
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education and the large educational enterprises as it exists now.
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I'm not suggesting that way get dewy eyed and abandon
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facts data but it's pretty obvious with the
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rapid turnover in facts and data. The rapid expansion
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that the way of coping with them is not simply to memorize
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and that in fact this may not in any sense be education at all
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because a computer can memorize facts quite adequately and I think a computer is
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being educated. I've put forward the
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idea that the basic way of approaching
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education might be to study and understand
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environment we live in and experts say
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faces that the environment we live in although we fail to recognise this
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is a media environment. Above all
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not totally or exclusively but above all its communications.
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We're still studying how people live in this countries how they live
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in rain forest areas. All this is very interesting how they respond to their
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physical on fire. I think we could be a little
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more relevant to our own social condition by looking very
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closely at the media that surround us.
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I want to find out how they work. I don't mean technically how they work I don't
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mean finding out about long shots little shots of SAP's but
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explore their psychic aspects if I can use the term expose
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explore their person their social consequences.
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This is what I would call the understanding of media
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that we can call it reading the environment if you like. We could call it
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consciousness which is really a kind of human quality to me.
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Being aware and awareness if you like it with it should lead us
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to being able to evade it to some extent
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manipulation. It should lead us to being able to
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propose and suggest alternatives to what it is we're all trapped by. Let's face it we're
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all trapped in that system. If we want to find out about that like by
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a technological society by shock alone which probably not too many people
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would disagree with totally. How many decisions can we make.
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How many decisions can present the United States. Well that's very interesting
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to let you make certain decisions but perhaps within a very narrow fact
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because of the whole structure of a society which of
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which he is part now to have to
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look at the problem. I'm going to use a film called Heartbeat
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is not an action film or it film it needs only a very brief introduction. I have
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already given a brief introduction to it earlier. I
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will add to that that I think you'll see the
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concept of the technological society is to programme the
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consumers consumer society and you are being programme I am
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being programmed by the people just as sick computers are being programmed
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this is not a scare film fact it cept produced by the
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Advertising Association to sell the concept of advertising I think we should
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look that film right away.
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At this point Mr. Morton presented a film entitled Heart Beat
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prepared by the Association of television broadcasters. The film stressed the
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unique advantages of television over other forms of advertising media
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while the printed ad tends to catalogue the qualities of the product. The
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televised advertisement by combining the various qualities of image motion
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space time and music can make the viewer feel the product
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emotionally the dramatic possibilities of close up shots and color
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broadcasting can indeed make the product more real than
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real. Thus the film is sorted because of a higher degree of viewer
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involvement in a shorter amount of time. The television advertisement
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is the most compelling form of product promotion ever. Immediately
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following the film Mr. Martin resumed his talk.
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I think we have to be careful not to be smug about our response to that.
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Maybe maybe you know what here is but I remember the first time I saw it it
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tends to be that way it's about those people you know those people who are doing these
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things to us act. This of course has
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been. There are lots of books for years that we read about the way we feel
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programmed by companies who are trying to sell us
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things. But let's face it the the whole attitude is
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expressed here is a part of a system which even if we
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don't condone it we are building blocks that it's
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a total system. I hesitate to say that I can think of a
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better one but nonetheless we must be aware I think of the limitations of it
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as an example of that. Many of us would greet the Consumer Reports
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and feel that we are being perhaps very wise making our selection of products
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very well. Farm to make your selection of products by going to Consumer Reports.
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This is great. I read it if I need it to but nonetheless a
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Consumer Reports makes a basic assumption that makes all the basic
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assumptions of the kind of society that we live in that we ought to be buying
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new cars that we ought to be buying one of these products with built
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in obsolescence that we ought to be interested in buying electric van parts
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and maybe we should too. But I'm just finding out that we're starting from all of
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us starting from basic premise of a system of which we are
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part and fundamentally if we ever want to achieve fundamental
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change in my view it has to come through a very much
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more heightened awareness of the system which is really a system
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of communication system of media.
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More real than real. It's not a nice phrase. Of
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course since this film was made in 1964 there have been changes. If you look through a
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number of magazines now you have see that even magazines are less
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specific about giving catalogs of information on products they're striving to
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create effects even the signboards billboards around
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strive for effect rather than specific product information.
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They're trying to reach through to your emotions trying to program your responses.
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All right what's the response of Education to this kind of environment you live
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in. First of all let's start with some of the responses which seem
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to be less perceptive. The great
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North American Dream of course is solve all problems by over LAX money by X
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market its goods. So we found that the response to Sputnik in education was a
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National Defense Education Act which fired billions of dollars into
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doing all kinds of things most of which are centered
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centered on the purchase of new materials new equipment new gadgets
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at this is our response just as in Farmer years our response to the settling of
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problems for us who's the quickest one to drop the gun.
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That doesn't seem to get very far though. Just a little excerpt to
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perhaps show this kind of response. This is
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from a report of a subcommittee of the Joint
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Economic Committee of Congress on automation technology and
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education. This is just one
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paragraph on her part but it is not out of context.
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In summary it may be said the technology makes it possible to convey information far more
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flexible and potentially at least effective way to be managed by an overburdened teacher standing in front
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the classroom. That's the same thing we saw here. It's
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better to use television and print. You can dress analogies in that sense.
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However there is one big proviso. Equipment must be properly programmed in as much as its
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performance depends entirely on what is put into the machine. Pressing need for adequate
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educational software to be constructively employed by the new machines was repeatedly stressed.
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Moreover equipment is still highly experimental most witnesses cautioned about the need
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for considerably more research to use existing techniques as well as for the development
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complet. It's programmed now I would suggest that I disagree entirely
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with the approach taken here. The approach is that we
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meaning the high priests of education the high priests of information
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control program for other people.
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I don't mean to suggest we have anarchy or educate any responsibility.
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I think that we can establish environments which are not programming people
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but are releasing them to find their own new levels. There are
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several ways that this is being done in schools now
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and then I will come back to a classic example of the misunderstanding of media.
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The introduction of media studies in schools has been long overdue.
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This is happening all through the United States now and it is happening also
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all through Canada. It's happening in varying degrees of quality.
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The concept here is that why should we just study
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drama prose and poetry in our high schools and colleges.
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These are very interesting but they're certainly not the basic
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contemporary media. So let's study some of the basic Taffy
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media since they are if we might accept this thesis that they are a
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very important part of contemporary environment if we can understand them and deal with them.
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We would be much freer people. Often this is called film education
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or screen education and hopefully in the very best of these programs they go beyond the
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analysis of film.
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They go beyond trying to say that television is better than magazines but it goes into a
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whole examination of popular culture and not an examination of
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popular culture. In a lecture approach
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because this too is very important approach of this take is just as far
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as the topics that are under study.
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One of the most promising approaches has being called as we label that
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fortune everything has to have a label. It's been labeled the discovery
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approach. This is a an approach where
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the acquisition of information is not considered
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primary parts as an end in itself but is the exploration of
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information and data. The finding of two bits of information
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which when put together are exciting or interesting
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or at least tentative conclusions. The setting up of classrooms
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not in a manner such as this which is useful for a kind of lecture
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presentation. But does not contribute to interaction over a long period of
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time setting up of classrooms where there can be interaction just by a
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simple rearrangement of desks and chairs.
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This of course is very difficult for teachers who have been kind of
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minor gods for a long time to accept to move out of their
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sort of position to become a spall could say one of a
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community of scholars where they too are learning something and they too are offering
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specific leadership but also the kids in their classes. I don't think it's
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happening very slowly. There are few very many
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deviations from that era at many times when we have the
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discovery approach applied by people as popular as
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runner which can really be called the Easter egg hunt where you kids
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out there discover what I have for you to discover and then you come up with it
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thinking you find it thinking that it is your own. This is a
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perversion to me. The true learning environment where people can
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explore study and become truly scholarly
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in any genuine sense of the word.
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The role of media then becomes less of an audio visual aid
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and more of a subject of study if you like.
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So we tend to find less useful film which
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is a replication of a textbook. In fact one company
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called their films text films and many films that are
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are used in schools today are simply catalogs of facts like Illustrated lectures.
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This kind of film becomes less and less useful and the kind of film that
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becomes more and more useful. Is the film which in itself is literate.
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I can parallel this with a textbook it's a rapid decline in spite of the
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textbook publishers institutes have their own lobbies at work and all
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state for eventual capitals. The textbook
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is really becoming less not useful it's being replaced by
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anthologies of works which are literate and or scholarly
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but are not read with instruction in mind is being replaced by just
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darn good books. Books that are worth reading instead of.
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Look at Dick and Jane type of thing which I'm not talking just about primary level right through
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college level. Some of the very few textbooks which I've ever encountered that
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I would want to read afterwards it would like to read I had to buy them for
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particular curse purposes. So we find the same
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kind of thing happening with film.
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This is happening slowly in our schools. It needs a lot of encouragement. The sum of things a
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National Film Board has done. I'll mention one because to me it's very modest but
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it's very important and that is for three years we've had a summer
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institute in what we call screen study. We could call it media communications
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because for political reasons the National Film Board of Canada is supposed to
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be concerned with the film. Right. But once
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we get political clearance first we can CERN ourselves with anything we think is
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significant. This institute has had
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30 teachers from across Canada at each summer. It is highly structured.
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I say that that is people don't just come and find a vacuum there.
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There's a wealth of resources provided for them. Terms of films and
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media people artists scientists linguists film
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makers all kinds of interesting people to meet with discuss with but the kind of
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structure is quite different from the normal university course structure in that it is open
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it's open to anything happening. It is not open. It is not
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established in such a way that you must accept and regurgitate
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some kind of closed fixed system. It's a stimulus kind of
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environment. And out of this of out of the first summer for instance came
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30 teachers very dissatisfied with the way they are teaching
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because they found that they really learned something in this other kind of environment for six weeks
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and they went back to their schools except for a couple of them dropped out because the
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frustration of trying to face their old situation
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was too great. The others went back and
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28 different media study programs resulted. There were all different
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factors some of them. I personally really wouldn't want for myself
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but I was excited by the idea that instead of anything standardized these people
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were going back and doing something they genuinely believed in something that was
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quite different than they had done the year before it was kind of a measure to me
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of growth. This has only
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affected directly I guess 90 teachers in Canada
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but it's been a very exciting experience for us and these people were not
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people who were working necessarily in with Indians or poverty programs
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or whatever their mixture of people or just people lots of people could
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come and could do something about this experience when they got back to their
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schools set up so that there's a great
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deal of participation as much as anyone wants. It's not like the sensitivity training or
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Tikrit type of thing where you are. Brain washed
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into very your soul even if you don't want to. It's it's left it's rich and
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stimulating but it's left up to individuals as to how they wish to respond to
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it. It's supported during the year which is very important we were
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having a discussion on this morning earlier supported during the year
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by the Film Board by the people who run the Summer Institute who
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continue to build up both politically and in a material substantial way. Any
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assistance they can give to the teachers who have been to the institute.
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I guess what I would like to conclude with
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this question and a couple of comments. I wasn't too
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clear this morning whether about this but I think someone raised the question the first
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session to the effect that perhaps now we don't live
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in a world of magic. I may have not heard that clearly. This is
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quite a different world from the world of cave drawings. I would
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question that. I think after seeing this film today we might question whether we don't
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still live in a world of magic. I think
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the crisis of education is a process of exploring that magic
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even if we still continue to be enamored with it at least understanding it understanding
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arrow that you. That I have a good deal of
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faith kind of top of individual freedom
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and equality will result from this guy.
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You heard Gordon Martin of The National Film Board of Canada as he spoke on the subject.
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Understanding media. Mr. Martin spoke at the annual conference
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of the Institute on man and science held in Rensselaer Ville New York
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on our next program. Dr. Eric Stein fall will speak on the topic the
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meaning of life these lectures were recorded by the Institute on man and
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science. The programs are prepared for broadcast and distributed by the national
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